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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
		<link>http://astheria.com/design/originality-in-web-design/comment-page-1#comment-4755</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regards to your final paragraph, I recommend that you view a friend&#039;s website...

http://www.cedarseed.com/

She uses mixed media in the majority of her work...

I hope you enjoy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regards to your final paragraph, I recommend that you view a friend&#8217;s&nbsp;website&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cedarseed.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cedarseed.com/</a></p>
<p>She uses mixed media in the majority of her&nbsp;work&#8230;</p>
<p>I hope you&nbsp;enjoy</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mercer</title>
		<link>http://astheria.com/design/originality-in-web-design/comment-page-1#comment-3973</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Mercer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article! It&#039;s funny, I have the exact same design development process as you. Most of my sites tend to lack in heavy imagery and photoshop flair because I rather like minimalism and subtle color variations. I will start with a basic design fleshed out in CSS and screenshot that into Photoshop to see if this particular design calls for something more than just background colors. 

I just found your site a few days ago and I&#039;m catching up on the archives. Great stuff man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article! It&#8217;s funny, I have the exact same design development process as you. Most of my sites tend to lack in heavy imagery and photoshop flair because I rather like minimalism and subtle color variations. I will start with a basic design fleshed out in CSS and screenshot that into Photoshop to see if this particular design calls for something more than just background&nbsp;colors. </p>
<p>I just found your site a few days ago and I&#8217;m catching up on the archives. Great stuff&nbsp;man.</p>
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		<title>By: joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HA! YES! Finally someone intelligent! 
&quot;do something different; try to stand out. Make a website background with acrylic paint, scan the bastard, and use photoshop to touch it up. Experiment with opacity and depth. Just go nuts. Develop a style&quot; 

FREEKING AMEN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HA! YES! Finally someone intelligent!<br />
&#8220;do something different; try to stand out. Make a website background with acrylic paint, scan the bastard, and use photoshop to touch it up. Experiment with opacity and depth. Just go nuts. Develop a&nbsp;style&#8221; </p>
<p>FREEKING&nbsp;AMEN!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Hodge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Hodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that design should solve the problem. Style is just part of the solution. That being said I enjoy making cool stuff as much as the next designer. My style preferences are always evolving. I get interested in everything I see. 

I do think its important to be a bit of a chameleon as well. That allows you to make a design that fits the clients needs irregardless of your personal style. And lets not forget about fitting their budget. I&#039;d rather get a quick professional website completed than spend hours in Photoshop as well.

You might like Fireworks. I mention Fireworks because it allows you to prototype quickly. I&#039;m comfortable working in any of the Adobe products, but Fireworks is just really fast.

Thx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that design should solve the problem. Style is just part of the solution. That being said I enjoy making cool stuff as much as the next designer. My style preferences are always evolving. I get interested in everything I&nbsp;see. </p>
<p>I do think its important to be a bit of a chameleon as well. That allows you to make a design that fits the clients needs irregardless of your personal style. And lets not forget about fitting their budget. I&#8217;d rather get a quick professional website completed than spend hours in Photoshop as&nbsp;well.</p>
<p>You might like Fireworks. I mention Fireworks because it allows you to prototype quickly. I&#8217;m comfortable working in any of the Adobe products, but Fireworks is just really&nbsp;fast.</p>
<p>Thx.</p>
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		<title>By: Azeem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Azeem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. I too at times when in dire need of some inspiration trawl through endless CSS galleries and the like - many design look similar but there sometimes is the odd 1 or 2 that really stand out and you can get something from it and develop it further. 

You comment: &lt;i&gt;&quot;I love the results that come out of just using code with minimal graphical flair&quot;&lt;/i&gt; really hit home. Seeing a design with the absolute minimum in graphics is rare, but when its done right it can be great. 

I tried a small experiment a while back to see if I could make a 1 page layout with no images at all. This was before I knew about benefits of the grid and looking back there is a lot I&#039;d change about it now - overall I suppose it was a good learning experience and taught me not to rely im images so much. 

Here it is: 
http://www.azeemalim.co.uk/imageless02/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. I too at times when in dire need of some inspiration trawl through endless CSS galleries and the like - many design look similar but there sometimes is the odd 1 or 2 that really stand out and you can get something from it and develop it&nbsp;further. </p>
<p>You comment: <i>&#8220;I love the results that come out of just using code with minimal graphical flair&#8221;</i> really hit home. Seeing a design with the absolute minimum in graphics is rare, but when its done right it can be&nbsp;great. </p>
<p>I tried a small experiment a while back to see if I could make a 1 page layout with no images at all. This was before I knew about benefits of the grid and looking back there is a lot I&#8217;d change about it now - overall I suppose it was a good learning experience and taught me not to rely im images so&nbsp;much. </p>
<p>Here it is:<br />&nbsp;<a href="http://www.azeemalim.co.uk/imageless02/" rel="nofollow">http://www.azeemalim.co.uk/imageless02/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kelley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 07:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kinda reminds me of this website I came across:
http://www.makemylogobiggercream.com/
:) heh heh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda reminds me of this website I came across:<br />
<a href="http://www.makemylogobiggercream.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.makemylogobiggercream.com/</a><br />
 <img src='http://astheria.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  heh&nbsp;heh</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Zinni:&lt;/b&gt; Thanks for comment. :)

I read your article and I have to say that the most important thing is educating the client (which you mentioned). But it&#039;s subject to debate &lt;em&gt;how&lt;/em&gt; to educate them. Many clients do want something that looks like &lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt; even though it is not fitting for their market. As designers we have to stress the importance not of good design (though indirectly), but what succumbing to trend based design will do to &lt;em&gt;their&lt;/em&gt; business. We need to explain not only why the glossy, reflected, gradient logo is not representative of their company, but why it does not communicate what is important to their clientele. Why it will not make them as much money as something else. Because in the end clients do not care about our process or why this is a trend or why we don&#039;t do things that way. They care about the results our designs deliver, and &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; is what we need to stress.

Cheers. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Zinni:</b> Thanks for comment. <img src='http://astheria.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I read your article and I have to say that the most important thing is educating the client (which you mentioned). But it&#8217;s subject to debate <em>how</em> to educate them. Many clients do want something that looks like <i>x</i> even though it is not fitting for their market. As designers we have to stress the importance not of good design (though indirectly), but what succumbing to trend based design will do to <em>their</em> business. We need to explain not only why the glossy, reflected, gradient logo is not representative of their company, but why it does not communicate what is important to their clientele. Why it will not make them as much money as something else. Because in the end clients do not care about our process or why this is a trend or why we don&#8217;t do things that way. They care about the results our designs deliver, and <em>that</em> is what we need to&nbsp;stress.</p>
<p>Cheers. <img src='http://astheria.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Zinni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zinni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 100% and I have been trying to make this more back to a print mentality in designing websites. I think that it also allows us to create a stronger brand link between printed materials and websites. 

Unfortunately the &quot;web2.0 style&quot; (and I use that term very sarcasticly) of design has reached our clients.  They now think that good design is glossy and reflected. Reverse programming of this idea has proven very difficult for me lately. While finding more trusting clients is high on my priority of things to do, it is not any easy task to accomplish when everything out there looks the same. Getting someone to go against the grain is not an easy task, however it is one that I am attempting every day. 

Great post, and keep up the great work. If anyone is interested, I also wrote &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zinnidesign.com/positivespace/archives/web-20-cant-the-term-just-die-already/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an article that quotes elliot and is very similar.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100% and I have been trying to make this more back to a print mentality in designing websites. I think that it also allows us to create a stronger brand link between printed materials and&nbsp;websites. </p>
<p>Unfortunately the &#8220;web2.0 style&#8221; (and I use that term very sarcasticly) of design has reached our clients.  They now think that good design is glossy and reflected. Reverse programming of this idea has proven very difficult for me lately. While finding more trusting clients is high on my priority of things to do, it is not any easy task to accomplish when everything out there looks the same. Getting someone to go against the grain is not an easy task, however it is one that I am attempting every&nbsp;day. </p>
<p>Great post, and keep up the great work. If anyone is interested, I also wrote <a href="http://www.zinnidesign.com/positivespace/archives/web-20-cant-the-term-just-die-already/" rel="nofollow">an article that quotes elliot and is very&nbsp;similar.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Daniel:&lt;/b&gt; I totally agree, in fact, I&#039;ve turned to books more than anything on the web now for inspiration. I&#039;ve been fending off the temptation to purchase every page layout book I lay eyes on because while much of it is meant for print, quite a bit relates to the web.

&lt;b&gt;Elliot:&lt;/b&gt; I&#039;m hoping to explain more about the process of writing code rather than Photoshopping things when a certain project is released that I can use as a case study. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Daniel:</b> I totally agree, in fact, I&#8217;ve turned to books more than anything on the web now for inspiration. I&#8217;ve been fending off the temptation to purchase every page layout book I lay eyes on because while much of it is meant for print, quite a bit relates to the&nbsp;web.</p>
<p><b>Elliot:</b> I&#8217;m hoping to explain more about the process of writing code rather than Photoshopping things when a certain project is released that I can use as a case study. <img src='http://astheria.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Elliot Jay Stocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliot Jay Stocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, mate. You&#039;re absolutely right and it&#039;s funny you should mention being inspired by print design - I&#039;m going to be talking about that at FOWD in London! My talk title will be &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Print is the new web:&lt;/strong&gt; why we can - and should - draw inspiration from print design&lt;/em&gt;.

I&#039;m also doing a workshop about creative processes in Photoshop, so I wouldn&#039;t mind getting your thoughts later today about how you &quot;tend to actually write CSS and photoshop images or slight conceptual variations by screenshotting what [you] have working in the browser.&quot; It&#039;s an interesting way of working and something I&#039;m even starting to do from time to time; or spending less time in Photoshp, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, mate. You&#8217;re absolutely right and it&#8217;s funny you should mention being inspired by print design - I&#8217;m going to be talking about that at FOWD in London! My talk title will be <em><strong>Print is the new web:</strong> why we can - and should - draw inspiration from print&nbsp;design</em>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also doing a workshop about creative processes in Photoshop, so I wouldn&#8217;t mind getting your thoughts later today about how you &#8220;tend to actually write CSS and photoshop images or slight conceptual variations by screenshotting what [you] have working in the browser.&#8221; It&#8217;s an interesting way of working and something I&#8217;m even starting to do from time to time; or spending less time in Photoshp,&nbsp;anyway.</p>
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